UK politics live: Zahawi says Johnson is safe in his job and says Starmer should apologise for drink

Q: Would you ever favour renationalsing the energy companies?

Starmer says he is not in favour of top-down nationalisation. But he says there other ways of looking at their ownership.

(This will be seen by many as a betrayal of a promise he made when he was running for the Labour leadership. He issued 10 pledges, one of which was his backing for “common ownership” of energy companies. Starmer argues that common ownership is not the same as nationalisation.)

Ferrari asks about the news that Gary Neville has joined the Labour party.

Starmer says he has spoken to Neville.

Neville told him he thought Labour should have voted against the government’s tier restrictions. Starmer says he told Neville he disagreed.

He says he likes arguments. He is not one of those leaders who only wants to hear people who agree with him, he says.

Q: Would you like Neville to be a Labour candidate?

Starmer says he would like to see him go as far in the party as he wants.

Q: Do you feel threatened by reports that Jeremy Corbyn will start his own party?

Starmer says he does not know if that is true. But he does not feel threatened by it.

The vast majority of Labour supporters want to see a Labour government.

When he took over, he thought it was important to ensure the party did not blame the electorate for its defeat.

Now he has to show the party is fit for office.

Q: Would you rather fight Boris Johnson at the next election, wounded by this scandal, or an invigorated Tory party under Rishi Sunak or Liz Truss?

Starmer says he will fight whoever the Tory leader is, and he does not really care.

But he says he does not think Johnson remaining as PM is in the national interest.

Q: Why won’t you back decriminalising cannabis use?

Starmer says he looked at many drug cases when he was head of the CPS. He has seen the damage drugs do. He does not support changing the law.

Q: Do you support the London mayor’s plan to decriminalise minor cannabis offences?

Starmer says the police have always had discretion in how they apply drugs laws. He says he will look at the results of Sadiq Khan’s pilot scheme. But he is not in favour of changing the law.

Keir Starmer is holding his LBC phone-in now. Nick Ferrari is presenting.

There first question is about the Daily Mail splash. The caller says what Starmer did was “the same” as what Boris Johnson did.

Starmer says the picture shows him in a constituency office in the north before the May elections last year. He was working with Labour staff. They stopped for a meal and then carried on working.

There was no party, he says.

Q: But you broke restrictions, which said you should not mix with other people?

Starmer says the restrictions allowed people to work.

He says restaurants were closed at the time. The hotel was not serving food. They needed to eat.

Starmer says he had about six people with him. He was in Durham.

Q: What is the difference between that and the No 10 event that was photographed?

Starmer says that photograph showed a group including the PM’s wife. And there was a tressle table set up, with a large number of people there.

Q: Why don’t you apologise?

Starmer says he was working. He did not break any rules. He was working in the office

The caller claims Starmer has misled the country. You don’t need beer at a work meeting, he claims.

Starmer says he disagrees. There has been “industrial-scale partying” at No 10, he says.

Good morning. Is Boris Johnson safe in his job? You would not have thought so reading the weekend papers (here is Toby Helm‘s assessment of what is likely to happen next in the Observer) but this morning Nadhim Zahawi, the education secretary, claimed that he is. Zahawi implied that Johnson deserved credit for his apology, and for his judgment on “big decisions” in the past.

But, in an interview on the Today programme, it took the presenter, Nick Robinson, three goes to get Zahawi to say Johnson was safe. It wasn’t the strongest vote of confidence ever. Here is how the exchange went.

Here is how the exchange went.

Robinson also tried three times to get Zahawi to say whether or not he thought Johnson was capable of changing the way he operated, but Zahawi dodged the question each time. This was probably wise; Johnson is 57, and his modus operandi has been rackety and chaotic all his adult life. Any significant change in how he operates that seems unlikely.

The interview was also notable for Zahawi saying that Keir Starmer should apologise for having a drink with Labour staff when they were working last year. The Tories, with help from the Daily Mail, are trying to suggest this amounts to equivalence with partygate, but, as my colleague Peter Walker reports, it sounded as if even Zahawi could tell this was not really a runner.

Here is the agenda for the day.

9am: Keir Starmer hosts his ‘Call Keir’ LBC phone-in.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

2.30pm: Priti Patel, the home secretary, takes questions in the Commons.

After 3.30pm: MPs debate the remaining stages of the elections bill.

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